With guns. Just lowering the citadel won't solve the problem either. And that only makes her unpunishing defensively, without actually making offensive options rewarding. It should be tough and not a floating citadel. Her armor piercing shells have a faster muzzle velocity that allows for an easier time with long-range gunnery, while her high explosive shells are similar to that of Monarch and other tech-tree British battleships, with high alpha damage. Hardened by battle, all damage taken is reduced by 10%, your Stamina is increased by 25% and your Armor is increased by 60% of your Strength. The armor belts were connected by 305mm transverse bulkheads and in order to defend against splinter damage from near-missing bombs and shells, a 51mm splinter belt protected the waterline past the citadel, extending stem to stern. Yeah, that tends to happen when all 134s in the game get the RP10's rate of fire, not just the RP10 mounts. Vanguard can equip the following consumables: As a premium ship, Vanguard comes included with Type 10 camouflage that lowers her detection radius, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, reduces her repair costs, and increases the amount of experience she earns. Note: Use of the Juliet Charlie signal makes detonation impossible. Never submarines, they said. Enhanced Anti-Torpedo Protection+10% damage reduction of Torpedo Protection System. Vanguard captains should mount standard signal flags to improve the ship's performance in battle. Firstly, striving to improve doesn't mean the end result is an improvement. They surely won't release her in this state because who , aside from collectors, is going to be willing to spend £40 on a floating citadel?! She needs to give you that feeling when you dev struck a cruiser in Alsace or when you watch DDs die in the rain of fire in your Bismarck. Victor Lima+1% chance for HE bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm causing a fire.+0.5% chance for bombs and smaller shells causing a fire.+4% chance of torpedoes causing flooding. A BB with a citadel is good. V. Queen Elizabeth. Currently Playing: League of Legends. of TNT (454 kg). She had the most complete anti-torpedo system build on a battleship (she is a lion upgraded). The light AA battery was made up entirely by the famous Bofors 40mm auto-cannon, with over seventy-three barrels in total, most mounted in ten RP.50 sextuple mounts, but also two in STAAG mounts. Their four directors was equipped with the Type 275 Fire Control Radar. Juliet Charlie-100% to the risk of magazine detonation.[1]. November Foxtrot () flags should also be mounted to decrease consumable cooldown time. Thus, the actual magazines could remain below the shell rooms in spite of the turret stalk arrangement. Grease the Gears+20% main turret traverse speed. Vanguard is best played from mid-range, where her lack of armor is less noticeable, and her accurate low … Why does Vanguard need recognition for such a superficial detail, and more importantly, why that instead of balancing the ship first, then thinking about a gimmick? Close Quarters Combat-10% reload time of secondary batteries.-10% reload time of main battery if an enemy ship is spotted within secondary range. With only eight guns, Vanguard’s firepower against other battleships, and even some cruisers, often feels anemic. Red Dragon+100% XP earned for the battle.+100% Commander XP earned for the battle. The lower portion, 2.5m tall, tapered from 356/343mm to 114mm at a bottom edge. Instead of AA and torpedo armament, the ship received improved anti-torpedo protection and an enhanced surveillance radar. November Echo Setteseven+5% continuous AA damage at all ranges.+5% damage from flak bursts. Hope you have a wonderful day and I’ll catch you next time! It looks like the Minotaur of the BB world ! We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Giving her a superheal and a lowered citadel would probably be enough, but then they would have made Mouse's Thunderer. Luckily, Vanguard’s excellent rudder shift time (just 9.7 seconds) can allow her to “wiggle” her remaining set of guns onto and off of targets quite quickly. They're not just looking to collect it for the name. Vanguard Investor UK review. Bugs & errors report . Pyrotechnician+1% chance of main and secondary HE shells causing a fire. What have we done to deserve this, Wargaming? Well if it had the Minotaurs reload I'd buy it and I wouldn't even care if it was made entirely of citadel. As her construction was halted and restarted multiple times during World War II, she incorporated numerous modifications to reflect the lessons learned by the Royal Navy during the conflict. Memory of the Vanguard's Momentum is a quest item. The Yamato is the … One only need look at the record of the BL 16" MKI to see that. Contributor, Benzinga October 18, 2020 Updated: March 9, 2021. A review of the British Tier VIII battleship. AA Gunner+10% damage from continuous AA and flak. Dear Wargaming, you have done so much right recently. Emergency Repair Specialist-3% cooldown time of Damage Control Party () and Repair Party (). It's not just the citadel. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the WorldOfWarships community. As Vanguard does not possess a well protected or low citadel (unlike Monarch), exposing large amounts of the ship's side armor will often lead to catastrophic amounts of damage taken when fired upon by enemy battleships. Vanguard departs Portsmouth headed for the breakers, 4 August 1960. The mounts traversed and elevated twice as fast as the older ones, had full RPC, and utilized the American Mk.37 dual-purpose Fire Control System. Okay, this review took way too long to write. It's clearly going to be a case of total laziness becuase they have too much going on at the moment, so why bother with the details and when throwing a superheal on will do, who cares about making a ship interesting to play? In 1953 she participated in Queen Elizabeth II’s Coronation Review. Not sure if worth to buy really. A custom transmog set created with Wowhead's Dressing Room tool. By Baddhist. number of battles, statistics). Orion. Writing for Gascogne felt like a full time job and there always seemed to be more that needed to be done. Vanguard arrives at Cape Town, South Africa, 17 February 1947. Vanguards (Darkspear) Oasis - 60 Dark Iron Dwarf Retribution Paladin, 227 ilvl Make a Donation. This data is accessed via publicly available API as part of the WG DPP program. WoWs | Warships | Battleships; Jace Fire. Other than 0.2 sigma they have done absolutely nothing to represent any of the ships strengths. So much this. 'Shit ship + superheal = Balance!'. At T8 Bismarck has better armour and firing angle and gun arcs, plus hydro and secondaries. Benzinga Money is a reader-supported publication. The last battleship of the British Royal Navy. Vanguard has plus points, but they're terribly tempered by her negatives. Sierra Mike+5% to the ship's maximum speed. A Battleship that controls a lot like a Cruiser is something I’ve wanted for a while now. They can't, the Vanguards design limits them heavily as bow tanking is a complete game fabrication. The last battleship of the Royal Navy, HMS Vanguard was designed relatively rapidly. Amazing concealment, rivaling most cruisers and even beating some. Luckily, Vanguard’s excellent rudder shift time (just 9.7 seconds) can allow her to “wiggle” her remaining set of guns onto and off of targets quite quickly. Secondly, the majority of the changes to Lion and Vanguard's underwater protection systems focused on containing and countering flooding rather than improving the strength of the system itself. The Hull has shit torpedo defence despite being a Lion design hull heavily reworked for precisely that. Like all British battleships, Vanguard is covered with 32mm plating that makes her highly vulnerable to heavy cruiser high explosive shells and IFHE equipped light cruisers and destroyers. Mike Yankee Soxisix+5% to secondary battery maximum firing range.-5% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells.-5% to secondary battery loading time. This is offset somewhat by a quick reload of 25 seconds on her main battery, and her aforementioned accuracy. Conquerorcan sneak around a flank or disengage in order to repair the damage she has sustained in … It is looted from . With the CCs saying she is garbage, WG would likely change it. Barbettes were 330mm towards the beam, but tapered to 279mm on the centerline. MBRB may work but doesn't fit, plus simply putting MBRB on her will create new balancing problems (Myoko suddenly sees a BB out of nowhere, eats 3 Warspite salvos at point-blank range, etc etc). Your help is always appreciated! She had radar asisted AA and she is the most refined ship line, of a battleship to reach a great speed with a low raw power output. Many of our members have been with us for many years. Plus the Bismarck gets a spotter plane for an even greater range advantage. In order to prevent the draft from becoming too deep to traverse the Suez Canal, beam was increased by 2.5 meters, and the upper part of the main armor belt was thinned by an inch, leaving 356mm abreast the magazines and 343mm abreast the machinery spaces. Always up to date. She need something special, something that the Monarch, the MC, and the Bismarck doesn't have. If you invest directly with Vanguard online you have a choice of 74 funds to choose from (see next section for more details). Large superstructure leaves her vulnerable to fires and HE damage from both cruisers and destroyers. I could make a list of things I am so happy about, subs, cv's, hard mode operations... but please, please do not fuck up this ship. Underwent several major upgrades. Dead Eye-10% main battery dispersion if no visible enemy within the ship's base detectability radius. Vanguard during NATO Operation Mainbrace, 1952. Fire Prevention Expert-10% risk of fire.Three fires maximum. The protection of the secondary battery was improved in order to protect them from 500-lb. Fair or not, WG's method of calculating TDS is based on system depth, and British battleships had piss-poor TDS depth even on the wartime designs. But I don't want to pay for a port queen. Captains are encouraged to remain angled with only her fore or aft set of guns on target if there’s any possibility of an enemy returning fire. The table version WoWStats.org use is syncronized with the one at wows-numbers.com daily. Vanguard's real life design means they cannot touch on the gun arcs, damage, or firing angles either. Gunboats. Vanguard Review. In the Items category. © 2011–2021 Wargaming.net. Between all of the different iterations of the ship, I ended up putting in more than 15 hours of playtesting and sciencing. Investors can open a Vanguard account with a minimum lump sum investment of £500 or a minimum regular monthly investment of £100 or a combination of the two (other platforms do offer lower minimums). Speed - 30kt is fine on paper, but you have to spend so much time on the rudder to unmask/angle the guns you end up spending a lot of the game at 22.8kt. It designed and extensively tested to resist 1,000 lb. But, they are a business, and hopefully there is enough pushback from the community to convince them that they are losing out on a large chunk of money as things currently stand. Looks like a pretty decent trade off for me, lol. Her main battery was controlled by the AFCT (Admiralty Fire Control table) Mk.X, the most advanced version of British surface-fire control available, and was designed from the start to incorporate radar technology. Remember that our platforms only access publicly available information (e.g. Do you like WoWStats.org? The main battery of the Vanguard was made up of eight old but reliable BL 15”/42 Mk.I guns, mounted in four twin Mk.I/N RP.12 turrets, which were fitted with RPC (Remote Power Control) for training (but not elevation, this still used the older Follow-the-Pointer system), making Vanguard the first British battleship to have RPC for her main battery. Papa Papa+300% Free XP  earned for the battle. While a high-citadel, punishable BB isn't necessarily the worst idea, combining it with 44° turret firing angles and a pretty pedestrian 343mm of belt is not going to be an enjoyable combination. The last ever battleship built should be incredible, right now this is a turd. A recent discussion here about HMS Vanguard got me really interested in the ship and keen to look a bit closer at what is a pretty fascinating one-off ship so I thought I’d do a quite write up of how and where she might fit in game at some point in the near-ish future. Advertisement. Battleship design is a trifecta of speed-protection-firepower. The secondary battery was made up of the same dual-purpose 5.25” guns as the King George V-class battleships, but used an improved mounting (RP.10 MK.I*) with greater degrees of automation, allowing the sustained rate of fire to reach nine rounds per minute per gun (versus the previous 7.5 rpmpg). Vanguard’s platform only allows you to buy Vanguard funds, of which there are around 78, covering a range of regions, assets and investment styles. Vanguard anchored at Spithead for the Coronation Review of Queen Elizabeth II, 15 June 1953. Did not get stuck on an island once! November 21, 2018 Uncategorized, WoWs Videos 05:27. All these mounts featured RPC and each were directed by a Type 262 fire control radars (for 11 total). Due to the layout of the turret and turret stalk, it was not possible to reverse the main hoists for shells and charges, which would have prevented the charges being placed below the shell rooms (thus reducing the chance of a shell reaching the propellant and potential triggering a fatal explosion). Both her forward and rear firing angles are atrocious, requiring significant amounts of broadside to be shown in order to bring all guns to bear on a target. The horizontal armor was identical to the King George V and Lion-classes, 127mm over the machinery spaces, and 152mm over the magazines. Maybe they could have given her good secondaries. November Foxtrot-5% reload time on all consumables. Cite error: tags exist, but no tag was found. An Edinburgh -class light cruiser, one of the most powerful among same-type ships in the Royal Navy during World War II. I don't want to buy a Tier 8 premium for $45-50 just to have it for it's name. VI. In order to keep the improved arrangement, an extra set of hoists was added to bring up charges from the propellant magazine, to a special handling room above the shell rooms. The guns fire slower, have worse range, traverse slower and have worse arcs then the Bismarcks. The guild prides itself on being able to recruit exceptional players with vast experience in raiding (at the highest levels) whilst keeping an extremely friendly atmosphere within the raid and guild. HMS Vanguard - The last Battleship. Fans of Warspite or should have no problems playing Vanguard; captains who have no experience with Warspite may struggle with her peculiarities, but she is easy to learn, and is a capable Tier VIII battleship. Vanguard is my favourite real BB and a monument of an era passed, both for the British Empire and for battleships. Worth the watch. Eleven other 40mm Bofors were also mounted in Mk.VII rounds. Today we review the Poltava, which is a Tier 7 Russian Battleship. Concealment Expert-10% detectability range of the ship. Equal Speed Charlie London+50% XP earned for the battle. It's unfortunate this is what they give us. Ouroboros+777% Free XP earned for the battle. Radar that only searches one direction but reaches very far? For them to even considering testing it in this state, with the terrible belt armor, massive citadel, and awful gun arcs shows an incredible lack of judgment on their part. Super-Heavy AP Shells+5% AP shell damage+30% fire and flood duration. Review for the Vanguard, love the maneuverabilityand general gameplay for the ship. Britain’s last, largest and fastest battleship, HMS Vanguard, was commissioned in May 1946. Artificially low reload, more range, or Stalingrad-grade precision is also an option, but she really wants her own gimmick consummable as she was equipped with some of the most advanced electronic/engineering systems of her time. X-Ray Papa Unaone+15% action time of a Smoke Generator (). They've got a long way to go with this one. I am still pretty on the edge. edited 2 years ago. 'Shit ship + superheal = Balance!'. The Secondaries are worthless depsite being the heavily reworked RP10's. Terrible review. This NPC is the objective of Ravaged Dreams, The Vale of Dread, and Defense of Emerald Bay. Due to the British belief that there was no gain from armor conning towers against heavy shells, armor for it was only proof against splinters and low-caliber shells. IV. The protection of the main battery turrets was replaced, with 330mm faceplates and 152mm turret roofs. Vanguard has the same TDS rating as Lion, so WG isn't selling her modest increase in TDS depth short either. Vanguard — British premium Tier VIII battleship. While she was refitted in 1955, the Admiralty announced that the ship was going to be put into reserve upon completion of the work. Her AP shells struggle to do much damage on battleships even when broadside and any angling will cause them to bounce off without doing any damage. Vanguard Vanguard + Submit Your Build. 2,042 views (138 votes, average: 4.57 out of 5) Loading... Today we take a look at HMS Vanguard and whether or not she if worth purchasing. Leviathan+50% XP earned for the battle.+100% Commander XP earned for the battle.+200% Free XP earned for the battle.+20% credits earned for the battle. She was technically the best battleship the British ever built, but was completed too late for the Second World War, never tested in combat, and entered service at a time of severe budgetary constraints and rapid technological change, curtailing her operational life. Her main battery is an improved version of that found on Warspite, with similar dispersion characteristics and the all-too-familiar turret traverse speed, or lack thereof. Vanguard has serious shortcomings at each. Basilisk+75% XP earned for the battle.+30% credits earned for the battle. Scylla+50% XP earned for the battle.+150% Commander XP earned for the battle.+25% credits earned for the battle. Aimbot consumable? Questionable secondary armament arrangement, leaves her very vulnerable to … Same can be said of nearly every post-Washington battleship, even Yamato, yet Missouri is the only one with it. She is a Lion upgraded with less firepower but with the best radar fire director ever put on a battleship. Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! +5% to the risk of your ship's magazine detonating. My fear is that citadel seems very intentional, and WeeGee insist on going forward with it as part of the final iteration. Improved Secondary Battery Aiming-35% dispersion of secondary shells against primary target.Primary target must be manually selected. Basics of Survivability-15% repair, fire, and flooding duration. India Delta () and India Yankee () flags should be mounted to improve the ship's survivability. Vanguard was founded over 12 years ago. While she easily farms damage and kills on battleships, influencing the overall outcome of a close match is near insurmountable without a hell of a lot of skill and game knowledge. Dragon Flag+333% Commander XP earned for the battle. World of Warships has finally released her, so naturally its time to review her. Vanguard was sold for scrap and was broken up beginning in 1960. This page was last modified on 26 January 2021, at 03:10. You can’t buy funds from other companies, shares, or investment trusts. Maybe radar, which while it makes sense the game doesn't really want any more radar. Top 3 Favorite Games: League of Legends, World of Warships, Undertale. Operational range was improved by increasing fuel stowage from 3,720 tons in the Lion design to 4,423 tons, mimicking a similar modification to the King George V-class battleships. Inertial Fuse for HE Shells+25% armor penetration of HE shells.Base fire chance reduced by half. Find out more: read our guide to the best and worst investment platforms; Is Vanguard good or bad? Tech Tree. You can contribute to the monthly servers costs and help keep the website updated and stable with your donations, in any amount. Due to specific conditions during the construction phase, she combined high speed and powerful AA guns with up-to-date equipment while still using largely obsolete main battery guns.Vanguard was first released for sale worldwide on 16 November 2018. Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! This page has been accessed 80,926 times. [1], Juliet Whiskey Unaone+15% chance of causing flooding.+5% to the risk of your ship's magazine detonating.[1]. Tier VIII Premium British battleship Vanguard is essentially an up-tiered Warspite, even so far as possessing identical guns to that of her Tier VI cousin (albeit with improved shells). Iron Duke. Preventive Maintenance-30% chance of main armament, engines, steering becoming incapacitated. Hydra+50% XP earned for the battle.+150% Commander XP earned for the battle.+250% Free XP earned for the battle. India Delta+20% to the amount of HP recovered when Repair Party () is used. Because of this, design studies were launched that July in regards to utilizing four twin turrets of the BL 15”/45 Mk.I kept in reserve (from the Courageous-class battlecruisers, which had been rebuilt as aircraft carriers), and Vanguard became a hybrid variant of the Lion-class, utilizing the elderly BL 15”/45 Mk.I. In order to be able to use all the functionalities of our platforms, you must agree to access the API. Vanguard Review – World of Warships. Long-Range Secondary Battery Shells+20% secondary battery firing range. King George V. VII. Thankfully, I did manage to decompress every now and then, hiding in Final Fantasy 14 or playing Corgi Fleet over the long … LittleWhiteMouse's Premium Ship Review: Vanguard, Armada: HMS Vanguard Trailer - News - World of Warships, Armada 2.0: HMS Vanguard - News - World of Warships, Armada: HMS Vanguard Trailer - World of Warships Official Channel - YouTube, Armada: Vanguard - World of Warships Official Channel - YouTube, http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/index.php?title=Ship:Vanguard&oldid=302424, Second largest hitpoint pool in tier/class, after, Best main battery accuracy for a Tier 8 battleship, Powerful HE shells with high damage and improved penetration, Amazing rudder shift for a battleship, better than some heavy cruisers', Good concealment, as low as 12.6km with camo, upgrades and captain skills, Only eight 381mm main guns hamper DPM and overmatching capability, Weak armor, mostly consisting of 32mm common plating, Large citadel sits above the waterline and is exposed to enemy fire, Low HE shell fire chance for a British battleship. Throughout my adventures, from my mom's basement to Japan, nowhere has made me feel more comfortable than the internet... except maybe that one place... Gamer Since: 1999. lol, I'll try to include that in the future ;). There are countless forum and reddit threads going back to beta asking when this ship was going to be introduced into the game. She would still be a worse Bismarck, or a worse NC if you so wish. During the early 1950s, Vanguard was involved in a number of training exercises with NATO forces. There just going to 'balance' it with a super heal aren't they? Consumables Specialist-10% cooldown time of:  Main Battery Reload Booster (),  Torpedo Reload Booster (),  Spotting Aircraft (),  Catapult Fighter (), &  Defensive AA Fire (). Wyvern+50% credits earned for the battle. References to specific designs, models, manufacturers, and/or modifications of ships and aircraft are used only for the purpose of historical consistency and do not assume any funding or other involvement in the project on the part of the holders of trademarks. Also, RP10 mount or not, the weapon was a poor performer. A game about huge boats. Legion Vanguard is a level 45 - 48 NPC that can be found in Val'sharah. Sierra Bravo+10% action time of Hydroacoustic Search ()-10% reload time of Defensive AA Fire (). Hotel Yankee-20% to damage received when ramming the enemy.+50% to damage dealt when ramming the enemy. Due to the specific conditions of her construction phase, she combined high speed, powerful AA guns and up-to-date equipment while still preserving obsolete main battery guns. You can report any bugs/errors you found. Image Gallery . The torpedo defense system was also improved over King George V, with the depth being increased from 3.96 meters to 4.57 meters. Although the two battleships of the 1938 program, Temeraire and Lion, were laid down in June and July of 1939, it became readily apparent that none of the ships would be available until 1943, due to difficulties in manufacturing new 406mm (16”) guns. bombs, being increased to 64mm compared to other mounts. Emergency Repair ExpertDamage Control Party () and Repair Party ():+1 charge (each).+10% action time . Thus, there are two tiers to Asashio game play and some players simply are not skilled enough to … Our platforms (wows-numbers.com, wot-numbers.com) present data from Wargaming's products. Armor-piercing shells have short-fuse, allowing for fewer overpenetrations on cruisers, aircraft carriers, and destroyers. A floating citadel that won’t float for long as far as my 460mm Imperial AP shells are concerned... Players are looking for a premium, they're looking for an experience that is enjoyable. All structures in the turret were reinforced so that Vanguard could use supercharges for her guns, increasing muzzle velocity from 749mps to 804mps, but these were never issued. She has changed a lot since her first testing. Additionally, as a result of the Battle of Denmark Strait, 38mm bulkheads were added to the magazines behind the longitudinal torpedo defense bulkhead for additional protection. Adrenaline Rush-0.2% reload time of all armaments per 1% HP lost+0.2% AA continuous damage per 1% HP lost. Maybe Stalingrad/cruiser dispersion, maybe Republique reload, maybe enhanced AP angles. Juliet Yankee Bissotwo-20% to flooding duration. To log in, select the region where your account is registered, Or use Microsoft Login to enter WoT XBOX ecosystem, Chance of Fire on Target Caused by HE Shel. There just going to 'balance' it with a super heal aren't they? I want to be able to use it, and I don't feel like I can use it with the current design, not effectively. Consumables Enhancement+10% action time of:  Hydroacoustic Search (),  Surveillance Radar (),  Smoke Generator (), &  Engine Boost (). Flint was originally available by reaching Rank 1 in three (3) separate seasons of Ranked Battles. Construction of Vanguard’s main battery turrets, fall 1945. Tier VIII British Battleship Vanguard Replay Vanguard. India Bravo Terrathree-10% to the cost of the ship's post-battle service. Vigilance+25% detection range of enemy torpedoes. I don't know what that should be, but I would 100% take a Vanguard that can do that everyday but with current citadel, than a Thunderer with 381 guns. The ship has no consumables other then heal depsite being one of the most advanced ships afloat during her time. For me at least she has to feel rewarding when played right, no matter how punishing she would be when played wrong. HMS Vanguard after launching, 30 November 1944. Be careful what you wish for. Vanguard is best played from mid-range, where her lack of armor is less noticeable, and her accurate low-volume firepower can be better put to use. It's all dependent on how much effort WG want to put in, and I would be pleasantly surprised if they do anything other than a reload/precision buff, maybe combined with a lowered citadel. Incoming Fire AlertReceive a warning about a salvo fired at your ship from more than 4.5 km. Her HE shells, while having high damage, have a rather average fire chance more akin to battleships of other nations.
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